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macinfire — GMT

I went to the Honda shop this morning after work, the one I hadn't gone to yet. They had a blown diagram of the front wheel/forks so I could see exactly what that spacer I needed looked like. I told them that I was planning on riding this weekend and was waiting on that spacer from Missouri. The service guy said, hey we can just yank one off a bike on the floor. Not many people would do that, especially the first time I have been in that particular shop. They took a spacer off a 250, and told me to bring mine in when it arrived in the mail. It was very easy to put on. Needless to say, we went riding today. That thing is awesome. I love it. My son went crazy over that 85 too, he is hooked. The guy tried to sell me the 110 octane, is this a must have?

DC323 — GMT

Unless the engine is modified, no.

kawasaki kid — GMT

Yeah you dont need it. 93 octane however, is the absolute lowest you can go.

Teamsuzuki63 — GMT

:shock: i would keep goin to that shop!!! lol the service guy sounds realy cool. its great to see you found something you and your son could do together :)

macinfire — GMT

Yeah, I know. Actually, I was thinking this morning waiting for the shop to open.... :idea: If I had a shop, and a guy came in with my situation...I would hook him up the same way. Man, I didn't even have to ask, and didn't expect anyone to do that. Just figured I would have to wait for the mail... :x

B.I.F.T. — GMT

sounds like a great shop, keep using it and dont use 110, dont use 93, use what the manul reccomends (could be 93) on these 4 strokes, the higher octane you run (higher then reccomended) the engine only runs hotter, not better, theres no benifits of running a higher octane then the manual reccomends, it only makes the engine hotter, not stronger yea, great dealer it sounds like, keep using it, and get pics one of these days, like to see you 2 in action

mxr823 — GMT

B.I.F.T. wrote:

sounds like a great shop, keep using it and dont use 110, dont use 93, use what the manul reccomends (could be 93) on these 4 strokes, the higher octane you run (higher then reccomended) the engine only runs hotter, not better, theres no benifits of running a higher octane then the manual reccomends, it only makes the engine hotter, not stronger yea, great dealer it sounds like, keep using it, and get pics one of these days, like to see you 2 in action

higher octane=cooler burning?

octanemotowrench — GMT

It depends MXR on many things.

Grizzly600 — GMT

you don't run stright 110. You need to delute it first with the lowest pump ocatne you have. Most people think you delute it with 93, but its not good because 93 octane has a bunh of boosting junk and additives. I run my bike with pump 88 at a 50/50 ratio with 110 I think that motors (modded or not) run better on this, and i think its better for topend wear. Don't use race fuel in your 4-stroke unless its VP U-4 (4 stroke fuel). Like adam said, 110 wouldn't help you, and it could hurt you. You can just use 93 in both bikes, he doesn't need it as a begginer. But when he gets better and you two want to race, i would use race fuel.

kxracer27 — GMT

mxr, not cooler. i dont see how you thought it would run cooler,lol

motogeezer — GMT

Hihger octane runs COOLER. I attribute the longevity of my motor to running C-12, even though most people tell me I'm wasting money. Spend now, save later.

kxracer27 — GMT

not in a four stroke i thought?

motogeezer — GMT

Race gas is more consistant in formulation than pump gas. Pump gas (at least here in Cali) changes with the seasons. No, you don't have to run race gas, but any combustion engine will benefit from quality, consistant fuel.

Derek — GMT

Higher octane doesn't make it more explosive. It makes it more resistant to detonation. It burns cooler, and is more consistant.

B.I.F.T. — GMT

i could be wrong but in a 2 stroke, the higher the octane the better in our 4 strokes, higher then the manul reccomends the hotter the engine will run, not better (what makes vp 4 so much better isnt its octane, its the oxygen additives) i think im right, but i wont say "im right" but im pretty sure i am

kxracer27 — GMT

B.I.F.T. wrote:

i could be wrong but in a 2 stroke, the higher the octane the better in our 4 strokes, higher then the manul reccomends the hotter the engine will run, not better (what makes vp 4 so much better isnt its octane, its the oxygen additives) i think im right, but i wont say "im right" but im pretty sure i am

that is exactly what i thought, or at least was told. we could always be wrong though.

motogeezer — GMT

Yeah, what do us two-stroke faith guys know about thumpers? I run 87 octane pump gas in my four-stroke weed-whacker.

kxracer27 — GMT

my friend runs 110 octane gas in his 2003 yz85, thing screams, lol. i can still whoop him on the track with my 91 octane gas.

TenEightySalomon — GMT

Wow, that's incredible that the shop did that. Whenever I have to go to my local shop (just for quick neccesities, everything else I order) all I get is a stern look, an agravated answer upon a question if they have something and a disgruntled sigh when I fork over the cash.

VeNoM6 — GMT

Our local shop is cool :lol: . I have met the owner, and saw him out riding one day. He's cool. It's good to have a good relation with your shop... helps out a lot in the long run. Glad to see you and your son can ride together. 8)

macinfire — GMT

Well, I might be more confused now then ever before about octane etc... I am more concerned about engine protection. If I run 93, would a 50/50 race mix help my engine or just performance? It will be awhile before I run that thing wide open at the track, as a matter of fact, I haven't even been to the track yet :( ,......just took it to my grandmas twice already(the only place i can even ride it within a 30 min. drive). I did a few small tabletop type jumps just to get the feel of what I was dealing with and it was sweet. I feel good in turns with this bike. As far as getting the wheels off the ground, I definately need some tips on how to approach/throttle a jump.....even small ones.... :lol: . I was going to take some pics, but the wife ran off with the photographic picture taker machine :?

Bullwinkle — GMT

macinfire wrote:

Well, I might be more confused now then ever before about octane etc... I am more concerned about engine protection. If I run 93, would a 50/50 race mix help my engine or just performance? It will be awhile before I run that thing wide open at the track, as a matter of fact, I haven't even been to the track yet :( ,......just took it to my grandmas twice already(the only place i can even ride it within a 30 min. drive). I did a few small tabletop type jumps just to get the feel of what I was dealing with and it was sweet. I feel good in turns with this bike. As far as getting the wheels off the ground, I definately need some tips on how to approach/throttle a jump.....even small ones.... :lol: . I was going to take some pics, but the wife ran off with the photographic picture taker machine :?

I've heard several times that some race fuels and pump fuel don't mix well. For all I know, it doesn't make sense. If your bike is stock, it came from the manufacturer to run on the highest octane pump fuel available, reguardless if it's 2-stroke or 4. Here in California, that's 91. If you have the money & don't mind spending it, buy the race fuel & mix it 50/50, run it strait, whatever. Your bike will carburete cleaner, and run cooler. Just know that at least 91 octane pump fuel will not hurt your bike.

foxracing8085 — GMT

VP ultimate 4 is 92 octane, and it's specificaly for 4 stroke's so I'm assuming that higher octane doesn't do anything or 4 stroke's.

Grizzly600 — GMT

foxracing8085 wrote:

VP ultimate 4 is 92 octane, and it's specificaly for 4 stroke's so I'm assuming that higher octane doesn't do anything or 4 stroke's.

correct

allgoodmx — GMT

Service guy sounds really cool. Keep going to that shop man.

B.I.F.T. — GMT

macinfire crack open your manual, and see what ir reccomends, odds are its 91-93, stock, run what it reccomends, with that bike its not like you need that extra 2 hp vp 4 gives you stock that bike makes 49hp, run what it reccomends, race gas shouldnt even be in this topic

macinfire — GMT

B.I.F.T. wrote:

run what it reccomends, race gas shouldnt even be in this topic

That is what I needed to know, thanks. Ok, just one more thing....Is there any additive i.e. LEAD which would help my valves etc....like some kind of octane booter you see at auto zone/wal mart...

Grizzly600 — GMT

the only thing you ever want to use from walmart is wd-40..haha never use a booster. That stuff is junk. Use pump 91-93. the best thing for your valves will be rutine check ups (adjustments)

B.I.F.T. — GMT

glad i could simplify it for you lol yea, just what the manaul reccomends, and no additives, just ajust the valves every now and then (manual will tell you)

macinfire — GMT

God knows I don't need any boost with that beast....thanks for that info, i'll stay clear of Wal Mart, but already stocked up on wd40 LOL. I ordered both manuals for the 85 and 450 from helms, shold be here shortly and I'll check the valves. Is this right about helms doing Honda's manuals or does Honda have another version for my 05?? mac

Yamzinger — GMT

B.I.F.T. wrote:

i could be wrong but in a 2 stroke, the higher the octane the better in our 4 strokes, higher then the manul reccomends the hotter the engine will run, not better (what makes vp 4 so much better isnt its octane, its the oxygen additives) i think im right, but i wont say "im right" but im pretty sure i am

Thats what I have always been told and thats what the guys at Stovalls told me. However I just run 92 octane pump gas with Yamaha brand octane booster and fuel cleaner. It works really good but you have to run a cooler plug than normalto prevent spark knock . Exam: strait pump gas=b8es With octane boost b9es.

Grizzly600 — GMT

Yamzinger wrote:

B.I.F.T. wrote:

i could be wrong but in a 2 stroke, the higher the octane the better in our 4 strokes, higher then the manul reccomends the hotter the engine will run, not better (what makes vp 4 so much better isnt its octane, its the oxygen additives) i think im right, but i wont say "im right" but im pretty sure i am
Thats what I have always been told and thats what the guys at Stovalls told me. However I just run 92 octane pump gas with Yamaha brand octane booster and fuel cleaner. It works really good but you have to run a cooler plug than normalto prevent spark knock . Exam: strait pump gas=b8es With octane boost b9es.

wait do you mean BR8ES? b8es has no resistor. I like to use Sta-bil when i mix alot of gas, this way i don't need to worry about it going bad as fast

B.I.F.T. — GMT

i didnt kno changing spark plugs one heat range could stop detonation (you do meen spark knock aka detonation) and i dont put anything freaky in my gas, i mix what i need for a few days (10-20 liters) and use it ive never had gas go bad, mix less lol

Grizzly600 — GMT

B.I.F.T. wrote:

i didnt kno changing spark plugs one heat range could stop detonation (you do meen spark knock aka detonation) and i dont put anything freaky in my gas, i mix what i need for a few days (10-20 liters) and use it ive never had gas go bad, mix less lol

i only use it if i know i cant finish it in a given time. Like if i need it to last 10 days

twosmoker — GMT

I think the fact that 4 strokes have to design their engines to keep heat loss as little as possible. 2 strokes dont have this problyem like 4 strokes do but I dont know why higher octane would hurt a 4 stroke, or overheat it

twosmoker — GMT

Ive used 5 month old gas. Ran fine but this WAS my goped :)

xeroxedCR250 — GMT

that was pretty cool of the service guy to do. the shops here would of just asked if you wanted to order it. but then again we do have a few cool shops when it comes to buying new bikes or parts. the honda dealer offered a left over 03 cr250 in 04 for $750 off, free stand, grips, renthal bars and up to $100 off a new helmet. the yamaha dealer offered a yz125 for $500 off and few free things and no sales tax. i usually deal with the yamaha dealership because theyre closer and always get a decent percentage off on everything. as far as fuel if its not pinging or knocking stick with what your using.