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				<title>Bubba on a 450F ?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I've heard that Stewart will be on a 450f for outdoor nationals. I would doubt if its true, but does anyone know details]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:56:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yea, I doubt it! Hes always been on a 2-stroke, except for one race while he was on a KXF250, but I doubt he will ride a 4-stroke. I think hes trying to keep the 2-strokes alive! At least I hope so!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Stewart ride a 450, highly doubtful. Not being racist, but James Stewart is black and hes gotta keep the 2 strokes alive. 99% of the pro racers are not black. Go Stewart! 2-Stroke Faith. I don't care if 450s are supposedly faster in the outdoors. Bubba is going to scrub everything and anything no matter if he is on a 450 or 250. Keeping it alive, James Stewart.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:06:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I missed the connection between him being black and him riding a 2 stroke :?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I did too. Black people dont like 4 strokes maybe? Haha.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ if 4-strokes are so mutch faster thain how come people like JSR,Chad Reed, and Rickey Carmichel can have huge wins on a 2-strokes]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:26:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm so confused :?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:02:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There is a kid who i always see at the races....a pure Bubba replica..lol.....kx250f, chevy graphics, 2003 all bubba replica gear from boots to helmet, and he is black and races 125 B. I thought it was cool

Ive been hearing it was said in an interview he was riding the 4 stroke 2..guess we wont know till the first race.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:10:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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		<cite>moto_723 wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>There is a kid who i always see at the races....a pure Bubba replica..lol.....kx250f, chevy graphics, 2003 all bubba replica gear from boots to helmet, and he is black and races 125 B. I thought it was cool

Ive been hearing it was said in an interview he was riding the 4 stroke 2..guess we wont know till the first race.&nbsp;
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sean hackly?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ nope not him...but sean is real fast]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:28:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yeah hes okay... :?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ he rode the kxf for one race (glen helen) and by the end of the 1st lap he had suchhh a huuugeee, lead, 

i wish rc would stay on a 2 stroke out outdoors,]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well you know Adam, RC does have the choice this year.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yeah i think that is super cool that DeCoster gave him a choice. Wonder if Bubba gets the choice]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Decoster doesn't give him the choice, the honcho's sitting in Corporate Suzuki land gave him the choice. Decoster's basically the go-between, not to disrespect Decoster in ANY way though, I respect him for everything he's done incredibly.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I hope Bubba stays pure.  

His one ride on a four-stroke 250f didn't impress me much.  He was still faster than the entire field.  But no more so that on his 125.

-Steve]]></description>
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		<cite>TenEightySalomon wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>Well you know Adam, RC does have the choice this year.&nbsp;
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In the new pin up video at Transworld it showed some new model (forgot her name) doing her thing on Ricky's RMZ450. I believe the choice has already been made.]]></description>
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		<cite>lucy wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>I missed the connection between him being black and him riding a 2 stroke :?&nbsp;
		</blockquote>

African Americans are considered a "Minority"

Two-strokes are becoming a "Minority."]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I bet he rides what ever he is consistantly faster on.  Hope it's a 2 stroke!

KRS]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is this refering to this years nationals? Kawisaki doesn't even make a 450 so if he does ride on one it will be a one time deal because of the pre prodution rule. So that means he will be ridding a 250. I believe that I am right.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ^^^^^Not right.

Kawasaki and Suzuki have the same four-stroke 450.

I'm guessing, if they have sorted out the teething pains from the last couple seasons, we'll be seeing RC and Bubba both on thumpers out-doors this year.]]></description>
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		<cite>kawasaki kid wrote:</cite><br>
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		<cite>TenEightySalomon wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>Well you know Adam, RC does have the choice this year.&nbsp;
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In the new pin up video at Transworld it showed some new model (forgot her name) doing her thing on Ricky's RMZ450. I believe the choice has already been made.&nbsp;
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Saw that too, however they build the factory riders factory 250's and 450's to ride so it may not be even the EXACT bike he'll be riding.

Don't get me wrong, I'm believing he will ride a thumper as well (sadly) however, the choice is still there.

Personally I think Ricky's smoothest season was 2002 outdoor season on his CR250.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for making the connection motogeezer! lol... I got a little ahead of myself but you got what I was saying. <blockquote>African Americans are considered a "Minority" 

Two-strokes are becoming a "Minority."&nbsp;
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		<cite>motogeezer wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>^^^^^Not right.

Kawasaki and Suzuki have the same four-stroke 450.

I'm guessing, if they have sorted out the teething pains from the last couple seasons, we'll be seeing RC and Bubba both on thumpers out-doors this year.&nbsp;
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Do you have any proof that they are, I recall hearing that they weren't joint projects. Kawisaki doesn't even say that they have a 450 the the website. You are refering to the 05 season/bikes aren't you?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The 450's, 80's, 125's and 250's are all diffrent]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Suzuki and Kawasaki share kid's bikes (up to 100cc) and off-road fourstrokes.

Little RMs and KXs, and RMZs and KXFs are exactly the same except for color]]></description>
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		<cite>motogeezer wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>^^^^^Not right.

Kawasaki and Suzuki have the same four-stroke 450.

I'm guessing, if they have sorted out the teething pains from the last couple seasons, we'll be seeing RC and Bubba both on thumpers out-doors this year.&nbsp;
		</blockquote>they have the same 250f not 450f.


i think they also share the 65cc, 100cc, drz110, rmz250f. I think that is all that they share. There 85's are not the same, but they share alot of bikes.

The RMz/kxf 250 was mostly kawasaki's design. Suzuki just gave them the motor plans.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's been a while since I read the press-release, but I could swear that it said that Suzuki didn't have a full line of kid's bikes, and Kawasaki didn't have high performance off-road four-strokes, so they made a technology  trade.

I guess I just assumed it was all inclusive.

That means a pinger could win the National Championship. <b>COOL!</b>]]></description>
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		<cite>motogeezer wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>It's been a while since I read the press-release, but I could swear that it said that Suzuki didn't have a full line of kid's bikes, and Kawasaki didn't have high performance off-road four-strokes, so they made a technology  trade.

I guess I just assumed it was all inclusive.

That means a pinger could win the National Championship. <b>COOL!</b>&nbsp;
		</blockquote>i hope stewart wins. this way i can say " Boo Yaa" to all the thumper riders at the track... :lol: 

If RC was smart he would ride a 2-stroke! i hope he does but i don't think he will.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It'd help the 2 stroke market in general a lot if the big stars like RC and Bubba are riding pingers (and winning races, championships)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've heard rumors that the "BIG FOUR" factories have 250 two-strokes that have close to 60 hp, and weigh under 200 lbs.

If it's true, the four-stroke revolution is officially over!]]></description>
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		<cite>motogeezer wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>I've heard rumors that the "BIG FOUR" factories have 250 two-strokes that have close to 60 hp, and weigh under 200 lbs.

If it's true, the four-stroke revolution is officially over!&nbsp;
		</blockquote> You know they have too...it's just weather tehy want to let poeple know they have them...

that would sink the 4-stroke ship for the pros and you know most would go back to the 2-stroke (we can only hope :wink: )]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Actually Brendan, historically it's proven that championships and individual riders winning don't sell bikes. It's tests and word-of mouth that sells the most.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ C what i heard on " Wind Tunnel" was that Bubba was going to be on the new kxf 450. I believe that he said that he was but i could be wrong]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i havent seen them nor heard of them yet, but that would be sick

heck, even with tech bolts all titainum stuff (takes 2000$ to deck out a bike with ti hardware, saves 9-10lbs)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ met/tec has a kit with just front/rear/subframe axles, they say it takes 2.5 lbs off the bike. Along with the rest of there hardware, like you said adam, you can shave 9lbs off the bike easy. I think some manufactures might even have Ti subframes and what-not.

Amagine how much weight a Ti subframe would shave. Along with a carbon fiber silencer like the one RC an Reed have, Mag Triple clamps, Ti head stem, hubs, and who knows what they do to the motors...thats like 15lbs worth of savings.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ah yes, it's really too bad (yet I agree with it kinda) that the stupid AMA made TRUE works bikes illeagal back in 85'.

Also, Brian, I doubt motors will ever be made out of complete Ti, Ti weaken significantly once applied with heat, engines would be toast in my opinion.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ taken from RacerX:
<b>Will you be at a disadvantage in the outdoors with all the other top guys on 450s?</b>
(Stewart)<i>The new 2005 Kawasakis are really fast stock. Rick Ash, he actually built this motor that I canÂ’t even ride right now! ItÂ’s too fast. I donÂ’t think I will be at a disadvantage. I know when the Kawasaki four-stroke does come out, I am going to get on that. I think we are right there. We have power. We are good.</i>

by the way, the new KXF450 isnt the same as the Suzuki RMZ450. their 250Fs r the same, but they did the 450s separatley.]]></description>
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