PROPER WAY TO BREAK IN 2-STROKE GUIDE!  XML
Forum Index -> 2-STROKE TECH Go to Page: 1, 2 Next 
Author Message
TenEightySalomon

MOTOEXPERT
[Avatar]
Joined: 12/03/2005 12:03:34
Messages: 7969
Location: Madison, WI
Offline

We've been seeing this question asked often on Motocross.com so we figured we'd ask our own Moto814 on the proper way to break in a 2-stroke engine say after rebuild or even out of the crate.

From Moto814

1) Assemble the engine properly and torque all fasteners to specs.

2) Start the engine with the bike on a stand and allow the engine to come up to operating temperature (top of the raidator hot to the touch). Do not allow the engine to run at one RPM at all. Constantly vary the RPM and do not allow the engine to idle. When then engine reaches operating temperature (about 3 to 5 minutes of running time), shut it off.

3) Let the engine cool completely (at LEAST one hour). You want the engine to be dead-stone cold. Longer is better.

4) Start the engine with the bike on a stand and allow the engine to come up to operating temperature (top of the raidator hot to the touch). Do not allow the engine to run at one RPM at all. Constantly vary the RPM and do not allow the engine to idle. When then engine reaches operating temperature (about 3 to 5 minutes of running time), shut it off.

5) Let the engine cool completely (at LEAST one hour). You want the engine to be dead-stone cold. Longer is better.

6) Start the engine with the bike on a stand and allow the engine to come up to operating temperature (top of the raidator hot to the touch). Do not allow the engine to run at one RPM at all. Constantly vary the RPM and do not allow the engine to idle. When then engine reaches operating temperature (about 3 to 5 minutes of running time), take the bike off the stand and put it in gear. Take it for a ride. During this ride you want to keep the engine under a load at all times. Do not coast. Do not let the bike idle. Do not allow the engine to stay at one RPM. Riding on a mild slope is fine for this, as is slightly dragging the rear brake the entire time. Do this for about 15-20 minutes. Then shut the bike off.

7) Let the engine cool completely (at LEAST one hour). You want the engine to be dead-stone cold. Longer is better.

8 ) Re-torque the head and base nuts.

9) Go ride.

The cool-down steps are crucial to this operation. You must let the engine cool completely for the break in process to work properly.

Also, do the warm up procedure I outline here before EVERY ride. Your top ends will last much longer if you do.

-Steve
_________________

http://www.cafeshops.com/moto814



WWW.MOTOCROSS.COM

The Number One Website for MX!
[Email] [WWW] aim icon
I Love MX

Expert

Joined: 06/10/2005 02:19:47
Messages: 849
Location: Roosting you
Offline

Cool Re-torque the head and base nuts. 


Hahahah. What does "cool re-torque" mean.?



2006 ktm 125sx-stock
Junior lites
#46

"When in Doubt, Hold it FLAT OUT!"
[Email]
Kahuna

Novice
[Avatar]
Joined: 25/09/2005 22:33:52
Messages: 89
Location: Tennessee
Offline

It means to re-torque while the motor is cold.

1999 Suzuki RM 250-Not Stock.

Sponsors: JG Racing, Distortion Racing, SixSixeOne, Pro Taper
Ace Hardware, and Dook Racing
[Email] [WWW] aim icon [MSN]
yz85ridr

Amateur
[Avatar]

Joined: 21/11/2005 15:05:04
Messages: 478
Location: San Joaquin Valley
Offline

so you just mean re titen the head nuts now why would i do that do they get loose or something during the break in???

-Andrew
I live to ride

Moto814 wrote:
four-strokes have no place in motocross  

PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE 2 STROKE FAITH
moto814

MOTOEXPERT
[Avatar]
Joined: 26/03/2005 09:05:27
Messages: 12514
Location: Allentown, PA
Offline

yz85ridr wrote:
so you just mean re titen the head nuts now why would i do that do they get loose or something during the break in??? 

During the initial heating and cooling cycles of the engine, the nuts can become tighter or looser. It's best to check them.

-Steve

Preserving the Two-Stroke way of life.
[WWW] aim icon [MSN]
Markopolo400

Regional Pro
[Avatar]
Joined: 06/10/2005 16:32:28
Messages: 1346
Location: New York
Offline

Steve, I have a question for you.

How am I supposed to torque the front 2 cylinder base bolts on my 125? They are impossible to get to (except with an open ended box wrench), and there is no way for my torque wrench to even get close to them.

I didn't have this problem on my 80, so I don't really know what to do.

Edit: Steve, I remember you mentioning a crowfoot on your personal message boards to get to them...What is a crowfoot? And how much does one cost?
[Email] [WWW] aim icon
moto814

MOTOEXPERT
[Avatar]
Joined: 26/03/2005 09:05:27
Messages: 12514
Location: Allentown, PA
Offline

Motion Pro sells an adapter that fits on the end of your torque wrench that is made for those nuts.

I believe they cost less than $20.00

-Steve

Preserving the Two-Stroke way of life.
[WWW] aim icon [MSN]
crazyktmkid

Newbie

Joined: 14/02/2006 14:00:51
Messages: 19
Location: CT
Offline

im putin a new exhoust on to so that wont change the way i brake it in right ????

2 stroke faith
aim icon
mxr823

MOTOEXPERT
[Avatar]
Joined: 12/03/2005 12:03:34
Messages: 4861
Location: CT
Offline

No it wont
Make sure to rejet for it though


Selling: 2004 Yamaha YZ85 $2400 OBO here
[Email] [WWW] aim icon [MSN]
crhonda404

Amateur

Joined: 06/03/2006 17:20:18
Messages: 204
Location: Parker, CO
Offline

"Also, do the warm up procedure I outline here before EVERY ride. Your top ends will last much longer if you do."











After you have broken the engine in why cant you just let the bike warm up from letting it sit and idle?
[Email] aim icon [MSN]
moto814

MOTOEXPERT
[Avatar]
Joined: 26/03/2005 09:05:27
Messages: 12514
Location: Allentown, PA
Offline

crhonda404 wrote:
After you have broken the engine in why cant you just let the bike warm up from letting it sit and idle? 


You can, it's your bike. You can warm it up any way you want to. However, doing it my way will evenly heat the engine, and allow for maximum top end life.

Also, if the bike sits at idle, and your jetting is not spot on, it can load up.

-Steve

Preserving the Two-Stroke way of life.
[WWW] aim icon [MSN]
mxsuperstar125

Amateur

Joined: 03/01/2006 20:00:17
Messages: 113
Location: massachusetts
Offline

what exactly is jetting..and how do u no when to rejet ur carb?.
aim icon
yz85ridr

Amateur
[Avatar]

Joined: 21/11/2005 15:05:04
Messages: 478
Location: San Joaquin Valley
Offline

hey steve, the part where you said to re-torque the head and base nuts, what if I dont have a torque wrench? could I just tighten them with a ratchet?

thanks

-Andrew
I live to ride

Moto814 wrote:
four-strokes have no place in motocross  

PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE 2 STROKE FAITH
RUSS-D

Novice

Joined: 07/05/2006 12:58:59
Messages: 81
Location: Florida
Offline

moto814 wrote:

crhonda404 wrote:
After you have broken the engine in why cant you just let the bike warm up from letting it sit and idle? 


You can, it's your bike. You can warm it up any way you want to. However, doing it my way will evenly heat the engine, and allow for maximum top end life.

Also, if the bike sits at idle, and your jetting is not spot on, it can load up.

-Steve 


I have learned from experience that an unevenly heated engine wil cold seaze sooner or later. I do almost the exact warm up procedure for my bikes, and have allways , since the cold seizure, had excelent starting, and running bikes. My '93 CR125R that I just sold last week would start oby the 3rd kick on a cold engine, and 1st kick on a warm engine without fail. Probably needed a top-end in it when I sold it. The one thats in it now has been in it for about 6 years LOL, but I only ride about 20 times a year (not as much free time when you get older). Plus i change oil, and clean the air filter after EVERY ride.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away!!!
octanemotowrench

MOTOEXPERT

Joined: 12/03/2005 12:03:34
Messages: 4919
Location: Canada eh?
Offline

Steve - would the same basic procedure apply to a 25cc 2-stroke gas trimmer? I am picking up a new one next week, and I want it to last as long as possible so if a proper break in will help it do so, then great.

BTW, I am concidering sending the cylinder in when you start accepting work and getting it ported

aim icon [MSN]
 
Forum Index -> 2-STROKE TECH Go to Page: 1, 2 Next 
Go to: