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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 15/04/2005 12:58:07
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moto944x125
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Anyone have a guide to wiring grips?
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 15/04/2005 13:00:27
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 15/04/2005 13:06:11
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moto944x125
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Thanks Brian.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16/04/2005 05:37:09
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Master Wrench
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Don't wire them ! Have you ever been stabbed through the gloves with the wire ? I have . Remove the old grips . Clean the bar/throttle tube with contact cleaner , then , spray a little paint inside the grip . It will slide on smoothly , and , then let it dry for about 1/2 hour . In 30+ years of doing this , I've NEVER had one come off that I put on this way ....including when I ran the National Enduro circuit & the ISDT Qualifier series .
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16/04/2005 05:47:31
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TenEightySalomon
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I neither, I have NEVER in my life wired grips on ANY of my personal bikes and NEVER had them come off.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16/04/2005 06:03:06
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Master Wrench wrote:
Don't wire them ! Have you ever been stabbed through the gloves with the wire ? I have . Remove the old grips . Clean the bar/throttle tube with contact cleaner , then , spray a little paint inside the grip . It will slide on smoothly , and , then let it dry for about 1/2 hour . In 30+ years of doing this , I've NEVER had one come off that I put on this way ....including when I ran the National Enduro circuit & the ISDT Qualifier series .
That's exactly why you cut off the end and stick it into the grip, so theres no wire hanging out to stick in you. Our racing club won't let you ride if you have no safety wire on the grip's, beside's, if it's good enough for EVERY single Pro AMA MX/SX rider to wire their grip's, then it's good enough for me.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16/04/2005 06:22:02
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Oh moto944x125, here's my method of grip installation:
What I do is get the old grip's off and clean the bar's with a brush that has hard plastic bristles, use some cleaner if you may. Get your new grip's and spread some grip glue around the inside of the grip and some on the actual bar if you want. Put the rim of the grip onto the bar enough so it won't fall off, then get a compressor and put it on a low PSI setting, also make sure it has a small nozle on. On the end of your grip's there should be a very small hole, put the nozle into the hole and gently press the trigger to release air inside the grip, now simply push or pull the grip on - if done right it should just slide on. When it come's to wiring I just pull out a lenght of wire and measure it up, making sure it wraps around the bar twice ( I double up when wiring ), when I'm happy I've got the right length I snip it off, wrap it around the bar then get my grip wiring pliers. The pliers save you from having to manually twist the wire to get it tight, the basically twist when you pull them. Once the wire is secured tightly to the grip cut the wire that's sticking out leaving about 5mm of wire, the reason you leave 5mm of wire is so you can twist it up and stick it into the grip so it doesn't stab you.
If you don't understand that, give me your email and I'll send ou some pic's of mine so you can see what I mean.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16/04/2005 15:18:50
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if you use the right type of wire it can never stab you.
You use vert thing stainlesswire, wrap it twice around, them twist and tuck it into the grip. I have not had an entire grip come off but i have had half of it come loose and make it hard to grab onto well.
I always wire them now. I do three rings on each grip, some riders do 4.
when done right, you cant even feel the wire....
usualy, a grip will never come off...unless say you crash...get back up and start riding...then the could be a chance the glue detached and it could come off. There is a guy at the track that is convinced that he doesn't even need glue. He uses 5 rings of safety wire. and he has never had a problem.
I like to use both, just to be safe...
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16/04/2005 16:41:19
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If you put the safty wire in the lil grooves it shouldnt poke you. I also melt mine on using a propane torch turned on down very very low and moving it over the surface very fast, just letting it warm the grips up and sticking better
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UrbanRacer wrote:
That's exactly why you cut off the end and stick it into the grip, so theres no wire hanging out to stick in you. Our racing club won't let you ride if you have no safety wire on the grip's, beside's, if it's good enough for EVERY single Pro AMA MX/SX rider to wire their grip's, then it's good enough for me.
ive heard this quater/nickle trick b4 but i dont understad it at all. can you explain it more, or possibly get pics? thnx
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 17/04/2005 04:52:16
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Master Wrench
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All the Pros DO NOT WIRE GRIPS ! that is a personal option . And in 30 years of racing , I've NEVER heard of an organization that required you to wire your grips on ! ALL of the wire can break , especially after a fall . Then , you're stuck the rest of the moto trying to hold onto the bars .
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Master Wrench wrote:
spray a little paint inside the grip
actually,i found somthing even better than paint...
its this elmers spray on glue
i got it at a hardware store...
its 100% clear,EXTREAMLY strong,and you can use it around the house,just like regular glue
great stuff,it has an orange cap on it,give it a shot
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(posted by Master Wrench)
I've NEVER heard of an organization that required you to wire your grips on !
well, do you live in Northern Ireland? no you dont, he does. his series has a mandated rule on wiring grips. take a chill pill.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 17/04/2005 23:02:36
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i dont wire
grip glue has always been enough for me
but when i get some safety wire pliers, ill see if i like it or not
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18/04/2005 05:39:46
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fleshwound#88
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All the Pros DO NOT WIRE GRIPS ! that is a personal option.
True, it's a personal option, one every Pro seem's to go with. I've never seen an AMA Motocross or Supercross rider, British Championship rider, Irish Championship rider or European GP rider without safety wire on their grips - that's a lot of rider's mate. If you had of wired your grip's right in the first place we probably wouldn't be discussing this. Wiring your grip's is one of the best precaution modification's you can do to your bike in my opinion. The reason I started wiring my grip's was because I had my throttle hand grip come off while riding, and before you state the obvious, yes, it was glued down properly. Simply just using glue is too risky, cleaning product's can work against the glue making it less sticky, once that glue is done you have no guarentee your grip's will stay on, also, by no mean's am I saying wire is a guarentee, but it sure does give you a better chance at finishing a race. Beside's, the recesses on your grip's are not there for show, they are there specifically for wire - fact.
And in 30 years of racing , I've NEVER heard of an organization that required you to wire your grips on!
Well, you have now! It's not just some bogus rule dude, it's there for a reason and a good one at that.
ALL of the wire can break, especially after a fall. Then, you're stuck the rest of the moto trying to hold onto the bars .
Ok, I'll look at it in this theory too. That's a valid point on the wire breaking, but for a start, what's the chances of two or three row's of wire breaking at once? There's a bigger chance that your grip will get mashed. Secondly, safety wire will NOT just come off if it's installed correctly.
I've took some gnarly fall's while racing, damaging my fair share of grip's along the way and except for one occasion, the safety wire has stayed intact while the grip shreaded around it on a fall, what's that say? I think that speak's volume's for safety wire if I'm honest!
So, back to your theory on thing's, it would be a pretty bad idea to race or even ride if we took your attitude on thing's. You're basically saying, don't wire your grip's because the wire might break on a fall. Just to show you how rediculous that sound's:
Why put air in your tire's when they might get punctures!
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